GUESS WHAT???

[MamaBush]

[color=magenta]Why yes....another dead section.....*I'm starting to get moist*[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]hmmmm....arts/entertainment/media....what can I talk about?[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]Ohhh.....I now have a DVD burner and reader for my computer. Been making porn DVDs for my "D", to give him something to remember me by...besides the pictures *blushes*[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]okay....my question:[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]My DVD thingie is an external drive one...and I don't have any high speed USB ports...and it takes fucking forever to burn a DVD with the 1.1 USB port.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]okay....had I gotten an internal drive one, would it run faster?[/color]

[zokah]

yes, yours is limited by the USB throughput. I'm not sure what the max output thru the USB is but I think it's slower than 10mb/s you could achieve if it was connected via a network card. Compare a USB internet connection to a normal HS connection and it'll show the differences.
1 of the biggest advantages with a USB connected external is that you'll burn less coasters due to buffer overrun

[MamaBush]

what the hell is a "coaster" and "buffer overrun?"


and what is a "network card?"



this computer stuff is way over my head sometimes.

[zokah]

a coaster is what I call an unsecessful attempt to burn a CD/DVD, what else are they good for except putting a beer glass on?

Buffer overrun is the most common cause of coaster creation. Basically it's caused by slow transfer of data to the disc - the (data)buffer is full and it keeps reading more quicker than it can be transferred to the disc from the harddrive

A network card is where you plug the cable in from the router or network hub, possibly (like me) you might connect the broardband modem to it. It's also known as a PCI series card or Fast Ethernet card and is usually rated as "10/100mb/s" which means it can transfer data at up to 100mb/s. But thats not stricly accurste either, the 1 I connect to the net with has recorded speeds up 1800mb/s while the other I have connected to my 2nd system (via a cat5 cable no hub) has had transfers as high as 120mb/s.

So have a look at your burner and see if there is anything else you can plug in apart from a USB lead. What brand/type is it and I'll have a look for you if you want

[MamaBush]

It's a HP "lightscribe" DVD 640 burner/reader.

If you can figure something out, I'd much appreciate it

[zokah]

it looks like it can connect via an ethernet card but there is now a kit that will permit connection via Firewire if you have that on your system

[xen]

i wish i could be of more help :(

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=zokah]it looks like it can connect via an ethernet card but there is now a kit that will permit connection via Firewire if you have that on your system[/QUOTE]okay....you may think this is stupid, but what's "firewire?"


and.....ethernet card? I know that has to do with high speed internet connection. When "A" comes over and uses his laptop, he plugs it in to my tower using the ethernet cable that came with my highspeed....does that have anything to do with what you're talking about?

Damnnnn......Xen, get your ass over here and help me out!
hmmm....if I end up clicking with "S" maybe he can do something for me....he's works in the IT field, but mainly with those big ass systems.

[zokah]

Ok forget about the ethernet, it can't be used to connect to your burner.
The HP site metions there is a kit that permits firewire connection, but it doesn't have a link to it.
Firewire is not something I've used so I have no firsthand knowledge. How stuff works (http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question371.htm) has a simple page explaining the basics. The key point for you is it tells that USB can tranfer at a maximum rate of 12mb/s while firewire (aka IEE1334) can get speeds of 400mb/s and it can also connect to digital videos cams etc
This page (http://firewire.adaptec.com/AFW-4300A.html) gives a very brief description and shows a 3port card for US$69.99 with a bit of shopping around (women are good at shopping) you could prolly find a single port card (I'm guessing) for a lot cheaper. The installation looks simple, just slip it into a free PCI slot insert a screw install the driver and it's ready to fly. Since I can't find a rearview pic of the burner I'm not sure what type of cable you'd need to connect with.
It looks like nobody here has much experience with it so maybe a thread in support @ GG will reveal some more info

[MamaBush]

Well....I was at wal-mart today, and bought a 5 port 2.0 USB port card for $27.00. Was fucking easy as hell to install too.

I burned a DVD for "D"....one hour long, and it took about a third of the time that the 37 min DVD I burned for him last time did.

What a fucking difference between the 1.1 port and the 2.0 port....FUCK.

[zokah]

it could also depend on what else you were doing or what other programs were running at the time, but USB2 is usually a bit faster

[xen]

glad u got it sorted out mama

[MamaBush]

Well...after burning that one DVD, I tried to burn another....now the damned thing won't let me burn anything more than 45 min. long....keep getting error message telling me the destination source does not have enough space....even though it's a 2 hour DVD that converts to 8 hours.

Gonna call HP this evening....hell, I can't even register the product on line, nor can I go to their help site.


Zokah.....when I was using the 1.1 port, I had NOTHING else running...wasn't even on line. This time, I was on line and it burned it at 1/3 of the time.

[zokah]

you might be able to solve the problem by rebooting. The HP help site is pretty crappy, good luck calling them, at least you're experienced talking ot Indians now :D

The other was just a thought cos I only use USB for scanner and 1 printer and when I do the Maxmem needle goes much higher than when I print using my cabled printer

[xen]

[QUOTE=zokah], at least you're experienced talking ot Indians now :D[/QUOTE]


heeeeyyy!!!!! :mad:

[i`m a wannabe]

for quality dvd`s best not to use the pc while burning,that is one way of making movies look crappy when the images temporarily freeze.some good dvd burning software is dvd shrink and dvd decrypter. shrink will compress a large movie of 5 gig or more onto a single layer disc. decrypter is a good program to save the image as an iso file for storing on your disk
i have a 90 gig hard drive and i can fill it in one night so the answer to your question about destination source could mean the file you are trying to burn to disc is too large..thats where dvd shrink comes in handy

[i`m a wannabe]

mama i cant post any links to these programs as the site have been shut down. i dont know if there is anyway i can upload the files into this forum for you , might have to ask zokie about that.
shrink is about 1.1 meg in size with zip file

[zokah]

I think it's funny whenever I ring them, they try and make it appear they're local, so I ask if they're cricket fans (is there any non-cricket fans there?) and then talk about the state league :D
Besides they all speak better english than any aussie :D

[i`m a wannabe]

sorry mama i stand corrected i have found a site you can still download shrink from
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm hopefully this will help you compress your movies for D

[i`m a wannabe]

[QUOTE=zokah]I think it's funny whenever I ring them, they try and make it appear they're local, so I ask if they're cricket fans (is there any non-cricket fans there?) and then talk about the state league :D
Besides they all speak better english than any aussie :D[/QUOTE]


almost all call centres are now based in india,its one of india`s largest business growth areas

[xen]

yep it is...and they are trained in the accent of the country they are serving.

[MamaBush]

Well, I did call the number that came in the help booklet that was with the DVD burner....got a fax machine sound.

So, I called the number they have listed at the web help site....told that woman what happened, what my problem was. Told me that they do not deal with DVD burner issues and gave me another number....the same as the one in the book only with one number different. I told her that the number they posted in the manual is wrong and that they should be expecting numerous calls because it's the wrong number....she said they're already getting numerous calls about the number.

So, I called the right number, got a person who sounded American....he told me to check how many GB I have open....did that. I only had 3.5 GB....he said I would need at least 4.5 GB to burn a 2 hour DVD. I went and deleted tons of shit...got it up to 7.5 GB free. Still won't burn more than 45 fucking minutes on the DVD...still getting the fucking error message "destination drive does not have enough memory"....fucking fuck fuck

I'll call them again tonight after "D" leaves.....oh, and I had a very nice surprise visit from him last night at midnight.....he's NEVER paid me a surprise visit before....was very very nice indeed

[zokah]

do you have Norton system works or similar? Often they don't fully delete the files but will allow the space to be overwritten normally but it's been known to conflict with the temp buffer. Best solution to that is either find the way to delete their "protected" files usually a rightclick operation or reboot
The problem could also possibly be caused through your swapfile (virtual memory) buffer being set to a fixed limit. To see what it is or change it
Start>Control Panel>System
On the Advanced tab, under Performance, click Settings.
On the Advanced tab, under Virtual memory, click Change.
You could try setting it to 50% of the free space in the minimum and 75% in the maximum. But write down what it is and reset it when you've finished or it could cause other problems later.

[wutangstan]

All this hassle to burn a DVD. sheessh, just send the file to me, I'll burn you a copy and post it back to you, how's that?

[zokah]

[QUOTE=i`m a wannabe]sorry mama i stand corrected i have found a site you can still download shrink from
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm hopefully this will help you compress your movies for D[/QUOTE]

Is it freeware or is a crack required?

[MamaBush]

ha, I called the help place back...told them I deleted enough shit to give me 7.5 GB of free fucking space and it still says the same damned thing.....ya, I deleted even more last night. THEY COULDN'T HELP ME....IMAGINE THAT!!!


So, I fixed it my mother fucking self. I removed the damned software and reinstalled it....works like a charm now....MOTHER FUCKING HELP CENTERS



Oh...and thanks for all the attempts to help me guys....I LOVES YA ALL

[Gnome]

Need tech support?

http://www.scarysquirrel.org/special/movies/foamy/tech.html

[MamaBush]

NOT ANY MORE I DON'T

[zokah]

you prolly will need tech support in the future but it's got a nice 404 page gnomey :D

[xen]

dems som skary skwerls...i mean squirrels

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=zokah]you prolly will need tech support in the future but it's got a nice 404 page gnomey :D[/QUOTE][color=magenta]At least you got the 404 error page...I simply get a big white blank page looking back at me.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]I'M TAKING THIS FUCKING DVD BURNER BACK TO THE STORE....IT SUCKS ASS.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]I tried to make another DVD last night.....it kept freezing up on me. So, I went to the "help" site and apparently it has a huge flaw with freezing up on people. I was FINALLY able to get a small amount to burn...but it turned out all garbled with the frames freezing every two seconds or so.....tried burning it with the 1.1 port, thinking......well, not sure what I was thinking....ended up with the same garbled messed up shit and frozen frames.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]STUPID MODERN TECHNOLOGY....gonna take it back and get an internal burner, fuck this external shit and fuck HP.....so far, I've always loved any of the HP products I've purchased...but this sucker is for the birds.[/color]

[zokah]

yeah, if you can get a refund get an internal, they're shit-easy to install and work better

[xen]

yeah What he said

[MamaBush]

ha....everything is easy to return here in the United States.

Even though all of the paper work says not to return it to the store, but to mail it to HP, I'm taking it back to the store and telling them it's a shit DVD burner....I'll get my money back with no problems, and the store will ship the fucker back to them.

[xen]

or u could just threaten to sue :D

[Gnome]

Ahhh crap!@


try this one- go to Tech Support

http://www.scarysquirrel.org/special/movies/foamy/

[lickateesplit]

[QUOTE=zokah]Is it freeware or is a crack required?[/QUOTE] Freeware and works like a charm, mamabush how old is your system, are you running XP, do you have at least 512MBs of memory? Oh where you ever a sailor, just wondering with all the cursing.:lol:

[zokah]

to bad we don't use the "fish" smilie here mama :p

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=lickateesplit]Freeware and works like a charm, mamabush how old is your system, are you running XP, do you have at least 512MBs of memory? Oh where you ever a sailor, just wondering with all the cursing.:lol:[/QUOTE][color=magenta]1) My system is a little over 3 years old[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]2) Yes, I'm running XP[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]3) Yes, I have over 512 MBs of memory[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]4) No, I was never a fucking sailor, but I've fucked a two over the years....does that count?[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]and, Zokah, we DEFINITELY need the fish smilie here:lol: [/color]

[lickateesplit]

[color=#ff00ff]does that count?[/color] Why yes it does.:D

[MamaBush]

ahh okay....I feel fucking better now *grins*

[i`m a wannabe]

if you are running xp on a pentium 3 computer they run slower due to the resources that xp requires,if you have under a 1.2 gig cpu see if your mother board can take a higher cpu speed and do that,the easiest way to check is if your motherboard has an intel 815E chipset or higher, it will take a higher speed cpu. is this all confusing for you now mama?

[MamaBush]

sorry...I don't read Greek


but I do know I have a 1.2 gig cpu.....I feel so smart.


Another thing has happened since I installed the damned DVD burner....when I put a disk in the CD drive (a systems disk) it no longer opens automatically....WHAT THE FUCK WOULD CAUSE THAT????....In English please *smiles*

[i`m a wannabe]

maybe you need to set up drivers for it to auto run



mama i aint no geek :p just what i know from building my own systems

[xen]

[QUOTE=MamaBush] *smiles*[/QUOTE]

i love you :)

[zokah]

[QUOTE=MamaBush]sorry...I don't read Greek


but I do know I have a 1.2 gig cpu.....I feel so smart.


Another thing has happened since I installed the damned DVD burner....when I put a disk in the CD drive (a systems disk) it no longer opens automatically....WHAT THE FUCK WOULD CAUSE THAT????....In English please *smiles*[/QUOTE]

Most likely cause is you were careless when you installed the software by not reading the fine print :rolleyes:
Somewhere along the way you gave priority to the external drive and I don't know if it'll be restored when you remove it. There is a setting in XP that will allow you to rectify it. I always have mine set to manually open - I've discovered spyware/malware on some CDs & DVDs so now I always scan before I open the first time and you can't do that if it's auto opened. But if you still want to take the risk:
start>my computer>right click on the drive>properties>select the "auto play" tab, then I think you'll need to selecet each filetype individually to autoplay

[MamaBush]

I did read the fine print you boob.....and, it does "automatically" open some cd programs when I insert them, but won't open others.


Got another problem for the computer literate folks here. I bought an internal drive DVD burner/player yesterday. Installed the drive just like it said by making my old CD player/burner the slave and the new DVD burner the master. Neither of them will work when set up that way. When I switch them and make the CD driver the master and the DVD driver the slave, they will as least turn on, but will not do anything.

Also, when the DVD driver is hooked up in EITHER OF THE ABOVE WAYS....my system takes about 20 minutes to boot up, and only half of my programs will work/run. Even my norton internet security and antivirus programs stop working....couldn't get on the internet either.

I'm going to that link that someone posted and see if I can find any answers there. Hell, I'm wondering if I should just make my DVD driver the master and not have the CD driver hooked up at all since I rarely use it anyway.

[zokah]

That'd be the easy way :D
I'm not 100% on this but here's the way I think it is:
There are 3 sets of prongs the rear of both units that you connect the small plug to, on standard shipping from the factory the RH set (looking with all plug connections on the bottom and the 4pin connection at the extreme right) is covered with a little bit of plastic. I think you need to move this bit of plastic to cover the centre pairing on the SLAVE unit and use the set that were previously covered

[xen]

hooray for zokie the FC techhead

[MamaBush]

I did that to change the CD driver to slave and the DVD driver to Master.

The jumper is the only thing that has a little bit of plastic on it.

[zokah]

OK, I was trying to avoid getting to tech but if you've done that I've got no other idea what could be the cause.
I assume that the DVD works correctly when only it's installed? Software/driver conflicts?
Did you have a spare IDE cable inside or did you need to get a new 1?

I'm looking for the clue

[i`m a wannabe]

maybe you need to change bois settings on your mother board too so it knows which is slave or master and for the ide cables the master cable should be the grey plug and slave the black plug with the blue plug connecting to the motherboard. it you have ata 100 or above cable this is critical to tell if you have an ata 100 cable the ribbon is very thin compared to ata 66

[MamaBush]

Okay....gotta try and answer both of you the best way I know how.

Zokah: The DVD driver plays just fine when installed by itself as Master. I did not have to buy an IDE cable. My system has the primary, which the hard drive is hooked to as Master....that cable also has slave drive, but nothing's hooked to the slave. The secondary IDE is what the CD driver WAS originally hooked to as Master...and as I described above, I cannot use any driver on that IDE cable if I use the Slave drive....but the DVD driver works fine when attached to the secondary IDE as the Master and the CD driver is not attached at all. My floppy drive is also attached to something....but I can't tell what, because all this shit is completely new to me....hell, the first time I openned my tower was when I installed the high speed ports.


Wannabe: I have no clue how to change the BIOS settings...I did look at the book that came with my computer, and most of what it says in the BIOS part is Greek to me, with tons of warnings not to change the settings if you aren't sure of what you're doing..which as you can tell, I'm only JUST starting to understand this shit. Also, both plugs for both of my IDEs (primary and secondary) are black....both the slaves and masters....and I have no blue plugs connected to the motherboard at all. All of the IDE cables in my tower are extremely thin.



yup....that sums it all up pretty well I think (grins)

[zokah]

yep, don't go messin with the BIOS unless there is someone physically present who really knows what they're doing. About the only thing I'd suggest you do with the BIOS is to enter the BIOS Setup, and ensure the IDE is set to Auto select. But if you don't know how to get there leave it alone cos I'm reasonably sure it's the default setting.
I've googled and it's not a unique problem but it seems the solutions all depend on the makes of both CD & DVD so what are they? Include model numbers pls then I can query the tech sites I visit search, they possibly already have the answer

[MamaBush]

The CD driver came with the computer.....it says it's an: NEC NR-7900A

The DVD driver is an: Liteon DVD +-R/+-RW drive....don't know the model number

[zokah]

k, I'll see what I can find with that, it'll take me a few days

[MamaBush]

no big hurry. What you find will probably be written in Greek anyway...and I won't understand it at all.

[i`m a wannabe]

mama in reference to your ide cables if all the plugs are black the master drive should be the middle plug and the slave should be the plug at the end.if you have set a master and plugged into the slave plug, it will cause a hardware conflict and cause your system to "hang" on booting up. another note is check the ide cables for a red stripe this is pin 1 on older cables its easy to plug it in the wrong way.if the plugs have 1 hole filled then the plug can only be inserted one way.with older style cables this hole is not filled in and you need to look at each drive on the back cover to see where pin 1 is and then the red stripe is plugged in accordingly...now your confused even more than before?

[zokah]

she prolly got distracted when you started talking about having 1 hole filled ;)

Listen to him mama. He's better with hardware

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=i`m a wannabe]mama in reference to your ide cables if all the plugs are black the master drive should be the middle plug and the slave should be the plug at the end.if you have set a master and plugged into the slave plug, it will cause a hardware conflict and cause your system to "hang" on booting up. another note is check the ide cables for a red stripe this is pin 1 on older cables its easy to plug it in the wrong way.if the plugs have 1 hole filled then the plug can only be inserted one way.with older style cables this hole is not filled in and you need to look at each drive on the back cover to see where pin 1 is and then the red stripe is plugged in accordingly...now your confused even more than before?[/QUOTE][color=magenta]Okay....gonna break this down for you....but it really isn't needed since I installed the DVD driver as the master on my secondary IDE now, and nothing (not even my CD driver) as the SLAVE. Found out my DVD driver also records and plays CDs as well.....it's not listed as being able to do that, but when I reinstalled the software, that option came up.[/color]


[color=#ff00ff]Anyhooo.....my master drive is on an IED all by itself as the master....I have nothing hooked up as the slave. And, with my system, the MASTER is at the end of the IDE cable with the slave a few inches down the cable, and not the way you had it listed above (although I do appreciate you trying to describe it, my IDE cables are not set up the way you listed it). Also, my IDE plug ins have an equal amount of opennings....no need to worry about if it's plugged in correctly to the driver or not.[/color]




[color=#ff00ff]sooooo.....I FIXED THE SHIT MYSELF, simply by reinstalling the stupid software that did not have the option to burn and play CDs on it when I first installed it...why it didn't show up the first time, I have no clue.[/color]

[color=#ff00ff]but....everything is working fine now. Still curious as to why I can't use a driver as slave with the secondary IDE, but at this point, I really am not going to worry about it.[/color]



[size=5][color=#ff00ff]THANK YOU ALL FOR TRYING TO HELP:kiss: :kiss: [/color][/size]

[zokah]

[QUOTE=zokah]Most likely cause is you were careless when you installed the software by not reading the fine print :rolleyes:
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ahem :p

I assumed you'd know that any DVD burner was also able to create CDs and would most probably have software included to do so, it prolly wasn't listed cos they think everyone knows it as well
Have you tried hooking up the CD now that the software is correctly installed?

And please clarify: When you say "Driver" are you referring to the actual hardware or the software driver. If you are referring to the software you might want to unistall any old drivers and asertain that you only have 1 copy of the required driver on the system or it will rear it's ugly head later when you least need it to.
If you need it I've got an easy to use tool that can find all installed drivers and even back them up for you.........them you could burn them onto a CD

[i`m a wannabe]

mama when you have 2 hard drives plugged in it is important when plugging them into the ide cables as they need to ATA100 cables are location sensitve and if the master or slave is plugged in the wrong coloured plug it wont work same as if you have 2 cd/dvd units. also ata 100 cables have a faster transfer rate from the motherboard to harddrive/ cd /dvd etc. if i am correct ata 66 cables are location sensitive too for master and slave configuration

[i`m a wannabe]

if i can find some images of ata 66 and ata 100 cables i could probably explain it better to you as to why you only have 1 drive working on your secondary ide cable

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=i`m a wannabe]mama when you have 2 hard drives plugged in it is important when plugging them into the ide cables as they need to ATA100 cables are location sensitve and if the master or slave is plugged in the wrong coloured plug it wont work same as if you have 2 cd/dvd units. also ata 100 cables have a faster transfer rate from the motherboard to harddrive/ cd /dvd etc. if i am correct ata 66 cables are location sensitive too for master and slave configuration[/QUOTE][color=magenta]My master and slave plugs are not colored, and I did have them set as told. CL on the left outside spot, Slave in the middle, Master in the right outside spot.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]and Zokah, I've never had nor have I ever used a DVD burner on a computer, so NO, I didn't know that they burn CDs as well, and none of the brands I looked at said they did so.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]Remember, this computer stuff is pretty much new to me, but I'm learning through trial and error.[/color]

[zokah]

thats how we all learn
What software was included with it, Nero 6?

[MamaBush]

Nero something.....hold on a second while I go look.........





it says, "Nero Expression 2".......and the version is 2.1.2.24 (??????)

[MamaBush]

Oh, forgot to add, it burns a great DVD at the moment......and so much faster as an internal drive.....ahhhhh.

[xen]

glad everything got sorted out :)