vinyl to digital

[Gnome]

OK.

I've finally need to address a project that I've needed to get on for some time.

I have a sizable music collection of vinyl records thats I've been collecting for a helluva long time. The records are just gathering dust in the milk crates and I hope to reduce the clutter of them down to a few collectables.

Anybody have any info on the finer points of transfering vinyl to MP3? I have an ad for a turntable that hooks to USB for under $200.

search for: TTUSB....

LINK<<<< (http://www.numark.com/)

anybody ever save their old records this way?

[zokah]

I did transfer a few the hard way.
I fed the output from my amp to the audio input on the puta

[Gnome]

yea thats the configuration that I've found the most online. Thats why I'm interested in this USB thinger, it looks like it has it's own pre-amp. and the local guitar shop is selling them for $165. But I don't know if i'm going to get a better RIP that ways or through the audio jacks.

[zokah]

I think the audio jacks, USB can be slow so it may degrade what quality there is to keep the transfer going

[Gnome]

Hmmm this is going to be a fun project

[zokah]

any project involving computer and music should be fun but should not be commenced sober

[Gnome]

thats the scary part.

Even vaguely buzzed, I can have records strewn all over the fukin place, listening to old favorites, cleaning the silly things.

but with the new softwares, gone are the days when the best way to remove a skip was to plow :scared: through it with some pennies stacked on the tone arm

[zokah]

yeah, and I'm constantly changing records to listen to a track from a different album

[Gnome]

exactly. I'm stoked about getting my tunes from vinyl just for that reason- to make custom mixes of stuff from spoken word to indy 70's punk

[zokah]

could make some great mash-ups

[Gnome]

well I went and got this USB turntable for my prezzie to myself. I managed to get out of the guitar shop before I really fucked up. :lol:

Havnt got to hooking it up but I dug out my old cleaning kit, got some new cleaner fluid. But I've been sidetracked all day, my bro brought over a DVD chock full of Ripped iTunes..joy!

[zokah]

thats a great borthday pressie

[Gnome]

yea I'm stoked.

Heres the Freeware that came with the turntable>>
Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/)

then I went here and got all sorts of bad ideas :lol:

need toys (http://www.tweakheadz.com/index.html)

[zokah]

You should try and find something called "Pro Tools" if you want to do some serious mixing.
I'm led to believe it works better on a Mac but will work with a PC

[Gnome]

oh I would loveto spend that kind of cash.

If I was gonna go that far, a few synths, drum machines/sequencers would be on order too. With an effects rack, multi-track recorder and a room in the house with egg crates stapled to the wall ^_^

[zokah]

I did see a cracked version on a torrent site recently

[Gnome]

i've been staying away from the torrents, trying to stay...pure....

[zokah]

unpossible

[Gnome]

must.... resist

will


strong
body weak.....

[zokah]

it's no longer international talk like a pirate day, so you don't have to be a pirate

[Gnome]

avast??

you mean I can pirate warez and talk normal? :lol:

[zokah]

yeppers

[Gnome]

:lol:

[Gnome]

Production is in full effect and doing well.

I have 20 albums Ripped into my RAID and have begun to feel the nuances of noise removal and recording control.

the files are big ol warpigs! Tognite I got The Go_Betweens (16 Lovers Lane), The Stone Roses, several Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians. With some Spanish guitar and {{{Berlin}}}


^_^

I LIke it!!

[zokah]

the files should be that big if they're MP3 format, sure they aren't being saved as .wav?

[Gnome]

The Audacity program lets you export as WAV, MP3 and the Ogg Vorbis formats with various controls over the track names and organization. What I've been doing is export as a WAV then drop them in iTunes. From there I can rip to CD's.

The MP3 option isn't proprietary to Adacity so I'll need a third party MP3 generator if I want to compress them right out of the program. Any ideas on some good ones?

[zokah]

I use Goldwave for all my audio editing and it gives many export options. I just use MPEG audio[mp3] then burn to CDs
let me know if you want a cracked version

[Gnome]

perhaps. I'm reading the specs and Audacity is on par with a lot of its features. THis one has a much better interface and the ability to convert raw binary.

I got a little MP3 converter from Download and it's been doing a nice job. I'll probably burn the original Audacity project files to DVD after I make em MP3.

[zokah]

sounds like you've got it then

[Gnome]

I'm trying to get an ear on the difference on audio nuances at high sample rates, and what the compression of MP3 make from it. On digital equipment like my trucks CD or the surround sound I cant tell much differences. I need to get the venerable Pioneer class 3 amp and Bose back up and running to hear the maximum audio depth.

One of the next projects: re-coneing my Bose 901's to their former glory.

Hard to believe these speakers are fetching almost the original price (from 1975) on line!!

[zokah]

if I can't tell the difference between recordings then it's good enuff.

[Gnome]

A classic record for dialing in audio systems at oen time was Genesis's live album "Seconds Out" the dynamic range is outstanding and recording engineering was top notch. I'm interested in adjusting these levels to optimize digital music for old fashioned stereo.

or even the avant garde audio ^_^

must have gear (http://europe.rotel.com/)

[zokah]

Yeah, some of the would be great to listen to " 4'33 " by John Cage or Mike Batt's "A Minute's Silence" :D

[Gnome]

you like that spacial stuff eh? like some of Brian Enos early experimental minimalist environmental. the operative word being 'mental' :lol:

I just got done ripping Moondawn by Klause Shultze only two tracks on the whole record, one tune each side. Those Germans where so good with the funky synthezoidies. Kraftwerk being the granddaddies of techno.

[zokah]

I got a lot of respekt for Kraftwork

Did you ever read about the breach of copyright case involving the 2 "tunes" I mentioned? What difference is there between 2 recordings of nothing? :D

[Gnome]

no doubt. who has IP on spacial emptyness?

I just looked into the other implications of copyrights on say, blank pages in books.

But I've been pointing at blank canvases for years telling people it's an alternate universe composition that represents what the Zen Buddhist call the Void.

nobody seems to buy my bullshit :lol:

[zokah]

I wonder why, is it being sold cheaper down the road?

[Gnome]

one could say the vast majority of media, especially the written word is about as valuable as a recording of a blank tape. just marketed different. :lol:

[zokah]

Sony makes more profit from the sale of blank CDs than from the sale of recorded music I think

[Gnome]

oh hell yea! HA!

As of late I have been frequenting a record shop that has become dear to my heart

like the bad ass music shops of yesterday this place is loaded with indy and local stuff. DVDs, extensive metal, punk, underground hiphop and other tunage. they buy trade, sell vinyl and cary posters, incense, and 'paraphanalia' of all manners.

I'm hoping I can unlaod my records on them when I'm done rippin' :lol:

[MamaBush]

huh??

[Gnome]

excuse my exuberance. ^_^

among other things; I consider music very dear to me. Something so tangible and sublime that started when I was very young. I've studied music for years, like to listen to anything.
gotta have it.

A nice shop full of tunage is really mondo.

[zokah]

I look at my vinal as an investment so I won't part with them easily. The covers of some are works of art, even those that aren't autographed by people like Bon Scott, Micheal Hutchence, Nick Cave or even Fat Mike of NOFX.
No amount of money could replace my copy of Frenzal Rhomb's "A man's not a camel" where the autographs are interspersed by rings caused the boys putting down their beers while considering if it was worth signing as we were discussing the merits of the literal interpretations of track 7 as opposed to track 12. We agreed that track 7 was the better option and it was Gordys shout (it proves again that drummers aren't the smartest)

[Gnome]

yea theres a gem to keep no doubt.

I'm hoping to wittle most the records down to a handful of rare and collectable. I've been perusing online collectors groups and resources getting an idea of what some are worth. I'll keep the good ones. Original pressings of Zep I II III, old punk, my rare Iron Maiden 12" picture disks, and old jazz & big band from the 40's & 50's and my Devo disk with autographs :lol:

[zokah]

if you don't want the zeps you can always give them to me :D

[Gnome]

HAa! shipping would prolly cost more than their worth, I'm looking at one on Zillion for $14

There a bid on eBay for 199 records including Zep 1,2 & 3 up to $950 but most of it is lame shit

[zokah]

I thought original pressings would be worth more than that

[Gnome]

me too.

A search on ebay and opening seem to be between $7 and $20 and a mixmash or reissues and originals. I've found a ton of resources online but havnt got too far into them yet

[zokah]

I'd never buy vinyl on loine cos there is no way to check the quality

[MamaBush]

huh??

[zokah]

yeah, wot i siad

[Gnome]

I hear ya.

Theres two awesome vintage record shops here in town yet I have little to offer them that they dont already have. Setting up a booth at the swapmeet would be a drag.

[zokah]

I'm a regular visitor to Glenn A. Bakers shop - he is "The rock brain of the Universe" and has an awesome collection. I once estimated it'd need an 8ton truck just to move the vinyl and he has no more than 2 copies of anything on hand. I'd like to see his wharehouse

[Gnome]

Thats gotta be the dude to see for replacement stylus'

It's a blessing to come across somebody who can turn you on to suggestions of tunage that hit the spot. Used to be a DJ at UNLV who would say "go buy this and this" and I'd never be dissapointed.

Nowadays those listening stations can really save you! :lol:

[zokah]

I haven't bought anything "new" since Napster v1.0 :D

[Gnome]

I hear you. It's only once in a while where I'll buy something. Mostly obscure stuff that never pops up anyplace.

Net radio has been very good to me tho.

[zokah]

what do you use to rip it?
I find that WMRecorder does a good job

[Gnome]

havnt captured any streaming yet. a lot of stations like Radioio have tight playlist so I'll usually hear the same stuff after a few days. But good God it's better than the tired shit on broadcast radio. I'll bet you right now on the 'classic rock' station their playing 1 of only three Hendrix tunes, one of maybe 3 ACDC tunes or Bob fuckin Seger .

classic rock my ass.

I think I'll d/l WMrecorder tho and catch some of my faves.

[zokah]

It's good for ripping streams. I can find my folder containing the .exe and everything else or I'd upload it. The latest version 11.2 isn't free - yet ;)

Edit: check your PMs :D

[Gnome]

:lol:

the only stuff I seem to listen to anymore is ambient, space music for daze.

[zokah]

the soundtrack from "2001"?

[Gnome]

thats DeBussy I think.

I listened to Hearts of Space for many years, still do, but I can get my ambient fix mainlined right into my brain.

I set up WM Recorder today. Still getting a feel on setup. I think it will be quite fun to play about with.

Hearts of Space (http://www.hos.com/)

safe journey spacefans...

[zokah]

it does have a steep learning curve but once you get the hang of it you can fill a HD from streaming wmp sites while your away

If you want something from the "Chill Out/Ambient" genre or even whats called "trance' try a site called w*w.mp3spread.net they seem to like sendspace for storage which can be a pain but it's better than paying :D

[Gnome]

ooooooooo

sweet!

I can wait for the ticket thinger to run down! and I pulled an 86mb file in under 5 mins at 5.5 d/l speed with iTUnes and this place running too.. servers gotta be in Europe someplace?

[zokah]

I thought you'd like it :D
sendspace isn't bad as long as there are vacant d/l spots. I have no idea where their servers are

[Gnome]

i prolly could find out if I dug about. if they are in another time zone that would let me find the best d/l time

damn- i need to get a bigger jump drive soon :lol:

[zokah]

I think they are like RS and have several servers

[Gnome]

I've been getting lot of hits on my firewall in the past few weeks. Seems more so when I have a streaming connection running. I'm concerned about a 'Run DLL and an App' entry in my firewall summary. Supposedly my spyware filter is running well. But I'm not sure if my security could be improved.

[zokah]

you could try dragging them into a program call "MST is used by" - freeware get it here - http://www.mstsoftware.com/cFreeware.aspx
or maybe "What's running" http://www.whatsrunning.net/whatsrunning/download.aspx and look around in the drivers and startup could always give a clue

[Gnome]

I like the idea of seeing the driver status! and MST is used by looks like it might shed light on a odd problem I've been having deleting Illustrator EPS files that where done in CS 2 wont let me do it sometimes even after rebooting. No linked files too!

It's a real bitch when I try to burn a DVD and the temp files wont clear.

[zokah]

it's all part of my security consciousness. I gotta know what's on my system and what it's for. I got another program called "WTF" that googles anything thats running, I can't find the .exe or a working link to it for you though.
You might find this page (http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm) of some use, it's a list of tasklists

[MamaBush]

huh??

[Gnome]

I like that. That will be good to keep tabs on apps I have that I dont want phoning home. If only Task Manager could let you hide system processes.

[zokah]

it doesn't take long until you recognise them and can then ignore them

[xen]

[color=#800080]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK5tHjL0aE&eurl[/color] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK5tHjL0aE&eurl)

funny :lol:

[Gnome]

:lol:

think the lotus

feel the lotus


drive the lotus!!

[zokah]

steal the Lotus :D

thats the best music vid you've done so far xenny

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=xen][color=#800080]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK5tHjL0aE&eurl[/color] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK5tHjL0aE&eurl)

funny :lol:[/QUOTE]:lol: OH SO CUTE

[Gnome]

is that really Xen and his crew?

[zokah]

it looks like him doesn't it?

[Gnome]

can Xen sign?

I dig the tune, started playing along with my guitar :lol:

[zokah]

I'm not sure, but this would this be what he'd sign :lol:

[xen]

no gnomey, that's not me....zokah's just being his usual silly self.

[MamaBush]

[QUOTE=zokah]I'm not sure, but this would this be what he'd sign :lol:[/QUOTE]ha


I would think that would be what you would sign....ya gaylord

[zokah]

I'm in shock, for once you've got it right. I could sign that (in either ASL or Auslan) but since I believe everyone is entitled to privacy I wouldn't want to out him.
I guess thats what got you together, you both love the same thing :p

[Gnome]

no doubt about it

[MamaBush]

you two are cruisin for a bruisin

[Gnome]

what I do?

[zokah]

oh noes!!! we gonna get attacked on teh intorwebby by a sex deprived female

[MamaBush]

sex deprived?

[Gnome]

depraved??

[MamaBush]

perhaps

[zokah]

depraved and deprived, thats a dangerous mixture.
I guess that explains xen's reluctance to consummate the union.

[xen]

dont be mean zokie...we're having geographical problems, not any other kind.

[Gnome]

geography makes the heart grow fonder

or was that algebra? shit, I'm mixed up now.

You could always sneek to the US via one of those Chinese cargo containers Xen. I know their full of people!

I see these cargo containers fresh off the ships from HK sitting in stacks behind the Wal-Marts® and I just KNOW the fuckin Red Army is in them waiting to invade.

[MamaBush]

OH NOZE....NOT THE RED ARMY!!!


*grumbles about the fucking geography bullshit*

[Gnome]

one of the few subjects in school I liked

I loved to draw the maps they made you do for homework, I usually went overboard

[zokah]

I only took geography in school cos the cirriculum included field trips to the coastal areas.

[xen]

yeah i loved geography too

gnome, thanks for the tip, but i dont think i'd have a problem getting a visa for
the states, won't have to resort to container surfing just yet...can you imagine the
smell when they finally open the container that had 20 odd people living in it
for 30 odd days....phew...

btw, interesting fact - Walmart is the single largest buyer in the world of chinese products.

[MamaBush]

which is why Walmart sells shit so cheap

and I too love geography....and the coloring of maps in that class.



so, when you gonna use your visa to visit the states, Xen??? hmmmmm????

[xen]

i haven't applied for it yet...but generally it's quite easy to get for hk residents...

Dunno when i'll visit the states, been working with a few clients on starting up some biz
but gosh darn, it just doesn't seem to work out....

[Gnome]

got to get some ol corn sourmash in old Xenny if he ever gets out to the Us of A

theres an outlet for cheap Chinese stuff here called Harbor Frieght. You can buy a cordless drill for $3.00. Everything smells like a Chinese factory ( a vague burnt rubber smell)

cheap crap that breaks instantly.

[xen]

some chinese ftys smell a whole lot worse than burnt rubber...cordless drill for $ 3.00??? is it one of them battery operated ones?

[zokah]

nope, you gotta wind a handle to make it work

[MamaBush]

hahahaha

for $3.00 I would imagine one would have to wind a handle to make it work

[Gnome]

naw it was just a drill bit, you got to twist it by hand.

OOOO! they have [COLOR=Purple]purple[/COLOR] Blaster Guns (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=513&pricetype=)!!

I knew the Chinese had rail gun technology!!

[xen]

interesting site gnomey..thanks

[i`m a wannabe]

if only the bigger toys where that cheap here

[xen]

zokah has plenty of big toys that he'd be happy to share with you emma :lol:

[Gnome]

that run off compressed air?

[xen]

dunno and dunwanna know really

[Gnome]

w3erd

[xen]

smart man

[Gnome]

50 records down, about 330 more to go or so.

I need a bigger jump drive

[xen]

so get one

[Gnome]

I'd like to but i'm tapped out from Christmas

and I'd buck for one as a prezzie, but I'm already pushing it for a new guitar

[xen]

good luck, hope santa gets you what you want....

what do the rest of you want for x'mas?