art or novelty?

[Gnome]

[font=Arial][color=darkorange]It would appear that the media elite who have all gathered at Sundance this year again appeal to the lowest common denominator. Some that is offered as 'art films', in my opinion portray not creativity or substance but the use of novelty in order to sell.[/color][/font]

[font=Arial][color=darkorange]Neil Postman’s musings on the media, especially television, rings true with these supposed art films. Whereas once the written and spoken word challenged the mind to sort through information and label truth or bullshit, cinema has become a part of our culture that we take at face value. And perhaps it’s value should be in question![/color][/font]



[font=Arial][color=darkorange]How many people you know actually quote sources from films as truth. "I saw it in a movie so it must be true"[/color][/font]



[font=Arial][color=darkorange]To create art is to create a message. Perhaps not beautiful at times, but- most certainly to rise above toilet humor, novelty, and our baser animal instincts. IMHO, some of the fare offered at Sundance would use the lowest common denominator to sell it's shtick.[/color][/font]

[font=Arial][color=white]http://www.variety.com/VR1117917076.html[/color] (http://www.variety.com/VR1117917076.html)[/font]

[MamaBush]

[color=magenta]The original movie, "Kids", make in 1995 was FANTASTIC with a very needed message to teenagers. While it was graphic as hell, it sure sent a message out to the teens in the world. My daughter had seen it when it first came out, then told me I had to watch it, now I'm trying to obtain permission from my supervisor to show it to some of my older and more mature kids in my classroom.[/color]

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[color=#ff00ff]This 2005 "Kids" movie sounds just nasty as hell....no message, no nothing...just negative shit to enhance the already negative lives of teens in the world.[/color]
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[color=#ff00ff]Have any of you seen the 1995 version of "Kids?"......[/color]

[zokah]

from reading the report it appears as if the film makers all get their ideas from watching Springer type television

[Gnome]

The whole Springer "anything for the dollar" mentality. With overtones of the MTV teeny-bopper vapidity.

Nihilism is one thing, but carnival/fast food entertainment is like dog poop on the shoe of epistemological failure.

Havn't seen it Mamma, but a buddy of mine with kids did and it made him scared for the future of his children. I would imagine any parent would feel nervous as to whats the best way to prepare their younger children for an amoral world that will indeed test them so.

[wutangstan]

I think that, to be honest, these films do little harm. They will only play to limited audiences in a select few 'arthouse' cinema's, where, without trying to stereotype, the only people who will watch these films are the highbrow arty types anyway.
Mainstream cinema will still only show films that appeal to the mass market, and, as long as America saves the day no one will care anyway.

[Gnome]

True that acess will be limited, but my main points where content. If the arty farty ski-bunny crowd wants to pat each other on the ass and say they are so cutting edge I think thats just fine.

But they should be held accountable for intellectual honesty.

Or lack of it.

[zokah]

hardly anyone will see them or even hear of them as long as the govts and religious freaks don't start screaming about them. If they do they'll become the "must see" vids

[i`m a wannabe]

springer ,oprah and all them i think make it harder to put out the message of right and wrong too much paid for acting like trailer park trash all the time

[LTDunltd]

[size=2]Worthless Post Whoring

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